Möngöl Hörde

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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by smithyramfan » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:01 am

"So here's the deal. You have a time machine. The question is, what are you gonna do with it?"

Visit the Renaissance and the Romans and the Victorians?
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by Evan » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:26 am

skhmmxi wrote:Well, that was a fun ride.

So MH aren't frank, and vice versa. frank sings about lamentations on lost loves, absent friends, faraway places, and drinking. MH don't dwell on such slushy topics, as I'm sure you've heard on the album. So naturally if your topic matter is about MH, expect that same kind of abrasive attitude in response around here. I figured that was obvious after the whole "stop fucking asking questions" bit. It's not actually serious, I think you're aware you overreacted.

I suppose there was a kernel of unprofessional irritation in what I wrote, but the real point is this - you're watching a video posted online last summer, released by the band as a kind of taster to say "hey! check out what we're working on! Get excited about this, it's different from anything you expect and it's awesome!". You're then taking the song in that video and directly comparing it to a finished track complete with production, mixing, and no doubt changes to melody and lyrics in the intervening period. That's more than a little unfair. You didn't *have* to see the video from a year ago at all, consider it a treat that you got to do so.

In fact, frank is increasingly asking his fans not to film his new and work-in-progress songs at gigs precisely because they get posted online and exactly this sort of thing happens later. People look at a shakey phone video of a song from a year ago and then quiz frank "why did you change it? I liked it before" incessantly. The more you do it, the more frank gets annoyed at having to justify changing his own creations, and the less likely you are to get sneak previews of this kind of thing in future because of the hassle it causes. Even now frank has to preface playing new songs in a set with "please don't film this", and he has been known to personally contact people who post videos of unfinished or work-in-progress songs and has kindly asked them if they wouldn't mind removing them. The alternative is he just doesn't play them until they're ready. But wouldn't you rather hear them sooner? Don't you think frank wants to show you the songs and projects he's been working on without being held to account for changing his mind about it later? I think regardless of your opinion, most people would hope frank doesn't stop doing it.

You can hate on frank or MH and the songs all you want, you're welcome to an opinion, and I'm not having a go at you for that. The "Shoreditch" metaphor was just a slightly more fun way of highlighting the fact that you're staking your preference on a cut of the song released almost a year ago, which is just a tiny little bit insulting to the entire band and all the work they've put in since then.

Perhaps I should have just put a winkyface after my original rant to avoid all this nonsense in the first place. But...no. Just no.

Blah blah blah…it was two summers ago you muppet.
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by DavidPorges » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:47 am

smithyramfan wrote:"So here's the deal. You have a time machine. The question is, what are you gonna do with it?"

Visit the Renaissance and the Romans and the Victorians?
What does it run on though? diesel oil and Donnie Darko daydreams?

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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by darlenet. » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:55 am

skhmmxi wrote:In fact, frank is increasingly asking his fans not to film his new and work-in-progress songs at gigs precisely because they get posted online and exactly this sort of thing happens later.
Frank has played 3 to 4 new songs each night this week, and each time prefaced it as you describe, with one added nugget last night. He said that someone actually heard a new song and had lyrics tattooed from it. Well, when the final song was released......
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by justdip » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:45 pm

Hi, so here's my review of the album. http://justdip.co.uk/2014/06/12/mongol- ... gol-horde/

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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by newmy » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:45 pm

I preferred the early stuff. You know. Skankin' Song, Business Man, Bloasis. etc...

That production was much better, gritteir and real. Frank had conviction back in those days too.

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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by newmy » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:46 pm

On a serious note. The MH album is stupidly ace. Really looking forward to The Garage later this month.

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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by newmy » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:38 pm

3rd post in a row. Brilliant.

Anyway. MH were brilliant in London tonight, the songs sound even better live, and the covers were a nice surprise addition too. Was a stupidly sweaty gig even for me just stood near the back doing some head nodding and the occasional shout along.

Also there was a shit load of pick-pocketing that went on during the gog (boo) but massive kudos to the garage staff who caught the fuckers and got everything back to their rightful owners (yay). Saw two staff carrying about 30 phones at the end of the show...it sucks so much that this goes on and I'm sure it never used to happen, at least it never felt as common as it is now. Perhaps I was just never aware of it...

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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by Shiney » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:54 am

Aaah does that explain the clusterfuck that stopped everyone from leaving, and the fire exits being blocked off? It was an amazing gig. I missed Oxygen Thief because of the poxy traffic, but Palehorse were good and MH were just fucking awesome!
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by skhmmxi » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:37 am

You hear about this happening so often at London gigs that it's great to hear that for once they managed to catch them. Wish I'd seen them trying to explain why they had so many phones when they were rumbled.

That pit was like an ice rink halfway through, the floor was covered in sweat. I slipped over twice. Great fun, though.

Chuckled at frank saying "..and we're not doing an encore because...fuck off".

That gig has genuinely improved my week. 10/10 would do again.
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by Pete » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:46 am

What everyone else said. Songs sounded huge. Loved FNM and Sepultura covers. Can’t believe I got my phone back. Staff said they didn’t actually catch the guy, just got the handsets back… Not exactly sure how that could have happened, maybe they just didn’t want to admit they had the person for fear he would get a kicking.

Feel rough today but totally worth it. First time I’ve crowd surfed in god knows how long, apologies to all those below me at that point, couldn't have been pleasant.
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by skhmmxi » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:56 pm

Unless the police were involved I imagine the security staff aren't allowed to detain anyone. They have the right to confiscate property, particularly if they believe it's connected to a crime, but only until the police arrive. So I'm guessing what happened is the security staff said "we think these phones are stolen, so we're holding on to them until the police get here. If you want them back you can discuss it with the police.". I doubt they chose to stick around, and the security staff would not have been legally entitled to prevent them from leaving the area.
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by carrie » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:12 pm

anyone caught them on tour? I shot the Nottingham Rock City show – pics here if anyone fancies a gander

http://www.one-beat.co.uk/in-pictures/2 ... ygen-thief

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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by Watergirl » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:44 pm

Only coming back to this now as have been busy and been listening on and off. I like it.
'Stillborn unicorn' is my favourite track, as predicted. The "born a little early" bit sings on in my head for the rest of the day after listening.
As I don't have that much heavy music this album is also very useful when wanting to drown out annoying chatter from others on public transport. I used to use AC/DC or Queen for that purpose, but Möngöl Hörde is a lot more effective.
Curious similarity between "Hey Judas" (the 'Paul McCartney and John Lennon' bit) and the Unthanks' "Lucky Gilchrist".
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Re: Möngöl Hörde

Post by invaderphantom » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:52 am

I absolutely love the record. I don't listen to that much hardcore, but this is actually my favorite album of the year so far. It's just so fucking good, so in-your-face and heavy but hilarious at the same time. My favorite songs are Make Way, Tapeworm, Casual Threats and Refund Counter. And Hey Judas has to be the most creative and funny song Frank has ever written. I really hope Frank brings MH to Europe mainland some day. (Frank, if you're reading this: Räucherkammer/Schlachthof, Wiesbaden or Elfer Club, Frankfurt would be amazingly awesome.)

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