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UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:23 pm
by baldman1980
Hi, Given the tight schedule of the February tour plus the increased size of the crowds are you going to be able to spare time and meet folks after the gigs?

cheers

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:00 pm
by frank
we are shortly announcing a scheme that is going to allow some hang out time, not kill me, and raise cash for charity...

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:40 pm
by baldman1980
Cool beans , cheers

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:00 pm
by ScarletPlanetMoon
frank wrote:we are shortly announcing a scheme that is going to allow some hang out time, not kill me, and raise cash for charity...
We're not going to have to pay to see you are we? For charity or not, my budget is stretched enough without that just to say hi... (You could of course come out to see the queue if you get the time) Also, when's this announcement? I need to book trains etc for Manchester, and if I know I'm gunna be able to get a train that gets me home earlier than 3am, that's be great :)

And that isn't meant to sound as bitchy as it seems :roll:

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:48 am
by Evan
ScarletPlanetMoon wrote:
frank wrote:we are shortly announcing a scheme that is going to allow some hang out time, not kill me, and raise cash for charity...
We're not going to have to pay to see you are we? For charity or not, my budget is stretched enough without that just to say hi...
You could, you know, just not bother. You've met him before. I am sure you will meet him again. Maybe give it a miss this time if it's a bunch of hassle.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:19 am
by Danlechief
I think it's a fantastic idea. My best mate and I are going to a few gigs, one of which will be my stag do (I refuse to participate in any of the modern "traditions" of stag do's and will do what makes me happy, not end up blind drunk fawning over naked women and tied to a lamppost) and we wanted a way to make it special. I didn't want to ask frank about the possibility of buying "VIP" tickets, because of what it says in the FAQ, but this sounds brilliant. We get a chance to make the night even better with some hangouts, and raise money for charity at the same time? Sounds great. I don t know what sort of scheme they are planning but if it was something like £100 to charity to have a few beers and a chat then I'd be willing to save up and do it. It's not like the money would end up in a promoters pocket.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:49 am
by darlenet.
Whatever the plan turns out to be, the fact that Frank is fretting about it at all, is a testament to his dedication to make the larger shows as inclusive as possible.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:36 pm
by ScarletPlanetMoon
Evan wrote:
ScarletPlanetMoon wrote:
frank wrote:we are shortly announcing a scheme that is going to allow some hang out time, not kill me, and raise cash for charity...
We're not going to have to pay to see you are we? For charity or not, my budget is stretched enough without that just to say hi...
You could, you know, just not bother. You've met him before. I am sure you will meet him again. Maybe give it a miss this time if it's a bunch of hassle.
I don't plan to, don't worry. I'm probably just gunna head straight to the train station after the Manchester show and hang out with my friends after the London show.

I was just under the impression that Frank wasn't the sort of musician who would charge people (whether it's going to charity or not) to meet him. But then, what do I know?

UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:10 pm
by Danlechief
ScarletPlanetMoon wrote:
Evan wrote:
ScarletPlanetMoon wrote: We're not going to have to pay to see you are we? For charity or not, my budget is stretched enough without that just to say hi...
You could, you know, just not bother. You've met him before. I am sure you will meet him again. Maybe give it a miss this time if it's a bunch of hassle.
I don't plan to, don't worry. I'm probably just gunna head straight to the train station after the Manchester show and hang out with my friends after the London show.

I was just under the impression that Frank wasn't the sort of musician who would charge people (whether it's going to charity or not) to meet him. But then, what do I know?



It's a bit unfair to speculate about something that hasn't even been announced. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. I happen to think its a great idea, and I will do it. Each to their own.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:57 pm
by sarahg
Well honestly, I am far too shy to go say hello anyway, but if there's something occurring that involves raising money for charity that is more intimate I would greatly appreciate the opportunity of joining in. I would have loved to have gone to see ft & Billy Bragg busk for Shelter for example.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:22 pm
by skhmmxi
sarahg wrote:Well honestly, I am far too shy to go say hello anyway
I thought about this, and I think I can identify some simple do's and don'ts when meeting frank. With apologies to frank if any of this is wrong:
  • DO:
  • say hello. Don't just stare from across the room all night, or hover closely nearby but never actually introduce yourself. It's creepy and weird. Imagine someone doing that to you all night, and how spooked you would be. If frank's met you before, he'll probably remember you - he's got a scarily good memory like that. If he hasn't he'll probably assume you're a fan saying hello without you having to specifically explain it. Once you say hello, frank normally goes right ahead, takes the initiative, and removes all the awkwardness you normally get when chatting with a stranger in a matter of seconds. He's done it before, even if you haven't.
  • say hello to anyone with frank who he introduces you to. That's fine, but I've always suspected this is frank's code for "It's nice to meet you, but just so you know, I'm hanging out with this person tonight, and I don't want to be rude to them". Keep that in mind.
  • keep your chat short. You probably don't realise it, but look around you - if frank's out in public there are more than likely other people waiting politely nearby to say hello. He wants to say hello to all of them, too, you know, they're all just as important to him as you are. If it's right after a gig then at least some of those people just want to say hello and then make a mad dash for their last train. If you've been to gigs before, then you almost certainly know how stressful that "last train anxiety" is, so be nice.
  • ask for a photo with frank, if you want one. Everyone does it, it's totally fine.

    DON'T:
  • interrupt frank if he's watching a band and looks like he's enjoying the current song. He likes live music too, you know. Wait until a break in the set, or a song where it appears he's less interested.
  • prolong the conversation. frank is tremendously polite to his fans, and is unlikely to outright walk away or stop talking to you, but that doesn't mean he wants to spend the entire night chatting away with you, either. Do the honourable thing and make your own excuses to end the conversation before frank even thinks about it. 5 minutes is probably the maximum acceptable length of time, unless frank has voluntarily started discussing a topic that he's passionate about, in which case you'll probably eventually get bored enough to want to leave on your own. :)
  • tell frank you love him, even if you do. He almost certainly doesn't love you too, and it'll be really awkward. Haven't you heard Substitute? Go and listen to it right now. Go on, I'll wait.
  • carry on talking to frank if any of the Sleeping Souls, crew, or anyone else official looking interrupts you to speak to him. It's likely to be important, and usually a precursor to frank having to rush backstage to sort something out. Or you've been talking to him for WAY too long and they're actually coming to 'rescue' him from you. In which case, see the earlier point about prolonging the conversation.
  • yell 'funny' stuff at frank across the room but never actually speak to him. I've witnessed this a couple of times and it perplexes me each and every time. I presume in your head you think it's fine to do that because frank is famous and famous people don't deserve common courtesy according to you, or something. Just stop it.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:12 pm
by Rubber_Soul
skhmmxi wrote:
sarahg wrote:Well honestly, I am far too shy to go say hello anyway
I thought about this, and I think I can identify some simple do's and don'ts when meeting frank. With apologies to frank if any of this is wrong:
  • DO:
  • say hello. Don't just stare from across the room all night, or hover closely nearby but never actually introduce yourself. It's creepy and weird. Imagine someone doing that to you all night, and how spooked you would be. If frank's met you before, he'll probably remember you - he's got a scarily good memory like that. If he hasn't he'll probably assume you're a fan saying hello without you having to specifically explain it. Once you say hello, frank normally goes right ahead, takes the initiative, and removes all the awkwardness you normally get when chatting with a stranger in a matter of seconds. He's done it before, even if you haven't.
  • say hello to anyone with frank who he introduces you to. That's fine, but I've always suspected this is frank's code for "It's nice to meet you, but just so you know, I'm hanging out with this person tonight, and I don't want to be rude to them". Keep that in mind.
  • keep your chat short. You probably don't realise it, but look around you - if frank's out in public there are more than likely other people waiting politely nearby to say hello. He wants to say hello to all of them, too, you know, they're all just as important to him as you are. If it's right after a gig then at least some of those people just want to say hello and then make a mad dash for their last train. If you've been to gigs before, then you almost certainly know how stressful that "last train anxiety" is, so be nice.
  • ask for a photo with frank, if you want one. Everyone does it, it's totally fine.

    DON'T:
  • interrupt frank if he's watching a band and looks like he's enjoying the current song. He likes live music too, you know. Wait until a break in the set, or a song where it appears he's less interested.
  • prolong the conversation. frank is tremendously polite to his fans, and is unlikely to outright walk away or stop talking to you, but that doesn't mean he wants to spend the entire night chatting away with you, either. Do the honourable thing and make your own excuses to end the conversation before frank even thinks about it. 5 minutes is probably the maximum acceptable length of time, unless frank has voluntarily started discussing a topic that he's passionate about, in which case you'll probably eventually get bored enough to want to leave on your own. :)
  • tell frank you love him, even if you do. He almost certainly doesn't love you too, and it'll be really awkward. Haven't you heard Substitute? Go and listen to it right now. Go on, I'll wait.
  • carry on talking to frank if any of the Sleeping Souls, crew, or anyone else official looking interrupts you to speak to him. It's likely to be important, and usually a precursor to frank having to rush backstage to sort something out. Or you've been talking to him for WAY too long and they're actually coming to 'rescue' him from you. In which case, see the earlier point about prolonging the conversation.
  • yell 'funny' stuff at frank across the room but never actually speak to him. I've witnessed this a couple of times and it perplexes me each and every time. I presume in your head you think it's fine to do that because frank is famous and famous people don't deserve common courtesy according to you, or something. Just stop it.

Love this list, maybe it should be printed out and posted up at venues.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:56 pm
by sarahg
skhmmxi wrote:
sarahg wrote:Well honestly, I am far too shy to go say hello anyway
I thought about this, and I think I can identify some simple do's and don'ts when meeting frank. With apologies to frank if any of this is wrong:
  • DO:
  • say hello. Don't just stare from across the room all night, or hover closely nearby but never actually introduce yourself. It's creepy and weird. Imagine someone doing that to you all night, and how spooked you would be. If frank's met you before, he'll probably remember you - he's got a scarily good memory like that. If he hasn't he'll probably assume you're a fan saying hello without you having to specifically explain it. Once you say hello, frank normally goes right ahead, takes the initiative, and removes all the awkwardness you normally get when chatting with a stranger in a matter of seconds. He's done it before, even if you haven't.
  • say hello to anyone with frank who he introduces you to. That's fine, but I've always suspected this is frank's code for "It's nice to meet you, but just so you know, I'm hanging out with this person tonight, and I don't want to be rude to them". Keep that in mind.
  • keep your chat short. You probably don't realise it, but look around you - if frank's out in public there are more than likely other people waiting politely nearby to say hello. He wants to say hello to all of them, too, you know, they're all just as important to him as you are. If it's right after a gig then at least some of those people just want to say hello and then make a mad dash for their last train. If you've been to gigs before, then you almost certainly know how stressful that "last train anxiety" is, so be nice.
  • ask for a photo with frank, if you want one. Everyone does it, it's totally fine.

    DON'T:
  • interrupt frank if he's watching a band and looks like he's enjoying the current song. He likes live music too, you know. Wait until a break in the set, or a song where it appears he's less interested.
  • prolong the conversation. frank is tremendously polite to his fans, and is unlikely to outright walk away or stop talking to you, but that doesn't mean he wants to spend the entire night chatting away with you, either. Do the honourable thing and make your own excuses to end the conversation before frank even thinks about it. 5 minutes is probably the maximum acceptable length of time, unless frank has voluntarily started discussing a topic that he's passionate about, in which case you'll probably eventually get bored enough to want to leave on your own. :)
  • tell frank you love him, even if you do. He almost certainly doesn't love you too, and it'll be really awkward. Haven't you heard Substitute? Go and listen to it right now. Go on, I'll wait.
  • carry on talking to frank if any of the Sleeping Souls, crew, or anyone else official looking interrupts you to speak to him. It's likely to be important, and usually a precursor to frank having to rush backstage to sort something out. Or you've been talking to him for WAY too long and they're actually coming to 'rescue' him from you. In which case, see the earlier point about prolonging the conversation.
  • yell 'funny' stuff at frank across the room but never actually speak to him. I've witnessed this a couple of times and it perplexes me each and every time. I presume in your head you think it's fine to do that because frank is famous and famous people don't deserve common courtesy according to you, or something. Just stop it.
Crickey, I love the list, I personally understand the protocol (my nutty Mum made me come on autograph hunts, to boost my confidence as a kid) I just meant I would feel more comfortable with no meet and greet, just a smaller scale music thing..like the busking thing ft did.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:59 pm
by JamesFrancis
DO:
say hello. Don't just stare from across the room all night, or hover closely nearby but never actually introduce yourself. It's creepy and weird. Imagine someone doing that to you all night, and how spooked you would be. If frank's met you before, he'll probably remember you - he's got a scarily good memory like that. If he hasn't he'll probably assume you're a fan saying hello without you having to specifically explain it. Once you say hello, frank normally goes right ahead, takes the initiative, and removes all the awkwardness you normally get when chatting with a stranger in a matter of seconds. He's done it before, even if you haven't.
say hello to anyone with frank who he introduces you to. That's fine, but I've always suspected this is frank's code for "It's nice to meet you, but just so you know, I'm hanging out with this person tonight, and I don't want to be rude to them". Keep that in mind.
keep your chat short. You probably don't realise it, but look around you - if frank's out in public there are more than likely other people waiting politely nearby to say hello. He wants to say hello to all of them, too, you know, they're all just as important to him as you are. If it's right after a gig then at least some of those people just want to say hello and then make a mad dash for their last train. If you've been to gigs before, then you almost certainly know how stressful that "last train anxiety" is, so be nice.
ask for a photo with frank, if you want one. Everyone does it, it's totally fine.

DON'T:
interrupt frank if he's watching a band and looks like he's enjoying the current song. He likes live music too, you know. Wait until a break in the set, or a song where it appears he's less interested.
prolong the conversation. frank is tremendously polite to his fans, and is unlikely to outright walk away or stop talking to you, but that doesn't mean he wants to spend the entire night chatting away with you, either. Do the honourable thing and make your own excuses to end the conversation before frank even thinks about it. 5 minutes is probably the maximum acceptable length of time, unless frank has voluntarily started discussing a topic that he's passionate about, in which case you'll probably eventually get bored enough to want to leave on your own. :)
tell frank you love him, even if you do. He almost certainly doesn't love you too, and it'll be really awkward. Haven't you heard Substitute? Go and listen to it right now. Go on, I'll wait.
carry on talking to frank if any of the Sleeping Souls, crew, or anyone else official looking interrupts you to speak to him. It's likely to be important, and usually a precursor to frank having to rush backstage to sort something out. Or you've been talking to him for WAY too long and they're actually coming to 'rescue' him from you. In which case, see the earlier point about prolonging the conversation.
yell 'funny' stuff at frank across the room but never actually speak to him. I've witnessed this a couple of times and it perplexes me each and every time. I presume in your head you think it's fine to do that because frank is famous and famous people don't deserve common courtesy according to you, or something. Just stop it.
If only I had read this before I met him... especially the point about saying hello...
All I remember from meeting him was being completely stunned, I'd never actually met someone famous and someone who I regard as a hero and big influence, even when I met Billy Bragg (whom I don't listen very much, but I know a few of the hits) I was lost for words. I guess naturally as humans we want to give a good first impression, but not seem like we are being too forward and twatty.

Re: UK Arena Tour/ Meet the crowd

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:15 pm
by Danlechief
JamesFrancis wrote:
DO:
say hello. Don't just stare from across the room all night, or hover closely nearby but never actually introduce yourself. It's creepy and weird. Imagine someone doing that to you all night, and how spooked you would be. If frank's met you before, he'll probably remember you - he's got a scarily good memory like that. If he hasn't he'll probably assume you're a fan saying hello without you having to specifically explain it. Once you say hello, frank normally goes right ahead, takes the initiative, and removes all the awkwardness you normally get when chatting with a stranger in a matter of seconds. He's done it before, even if you haven't.
say hello to anyone with frank who he introduces you to. That's fine, but I've always suspected this is frank's code for "It's nice to meet you, but just so you know, I'm hanging out with this person tonight, and I don't want to be rude to them". Keep that in mind.
keep your chat short. You probably don't realise it, but look around you - if frank's out in public there are more than likely other people waiting politely nearby to say hello. He wants to say hello to all of them, too, you know, they're all just as important to him as you are. If it's right after a gig then at least some of those people just want to say hello and then make a mad dash for their last train. If you've been to gigs before, then you almost certainly know how stressful that "last train anxiety" is, so be nice.
ask for a photo with frank, if you want one. Everyone does it, it's totally fine.

DON'T:
interrupt frank if he's watching a band and looks like he's enjoying the current song. He likes live music too, you know. Wait until a break in the set, or a song where it appears he's less interested.
prolong the conversation. frank is tremendously polite to his fans, and is unlikely to outright walk away or stop talking to you, but that doesn't mean he wants to spend the entire night chatting away with you, either. Do the honourable thing and make your own excuses to end the conversation before frank even thinks about it. 5 minutes is probably the maximum acceptable length of time, unless frank has voluntarily started discussing a topic that he's passionate about, in which case you'll probably eventually get bored enough to want to leave on your own. :)
tell frank you love him, even if you do. He almost certainly doesn't love you too, and it'll be really awkward. Haven't you heard Substitute? Go and listen to it right now. Go on, I'll wait.
carry on talking to frank if any of the Sleeping Souls, crew, or anyone else official looking interrupts you to speak to him. It's likely to be important, and usually a precursor to frank having to rush backstage to sort something out. Or you've been talking to him for WAY too long and they're actually coming to 'rescue' him from you. In which case, see the earlier point about prolonging the conversation.
yell 'funny' stuff at frank across the room but never actually speak to him. I've witnessed this a couple of times and it perplexes me each and every time. I presume in your head you think it's fine to do that because frank is famous and famous people don't deserve common courtesy according to you, or something. Just stop it.
If only I had read this before I met him... especially the point about saying hello...
All I remember from meeting him was being completely stunned, I'd never actually met someone famous and someone who I regard as a hero and big influence, even when I met Billy Bragg (whom I don't listen very much, but I know a few of the hits) I was lost for words. I guess naturally as humans we want to give a good first impression, but not seem like we are being too forward and twatty.

Yeah I've met frank loads of times. Never been bothered by it. But New Year's Day at the monarch, I was a bit starstruck for some reason. Maybe too much ale. I think I bought him a few drinks and babbled nonsense at him for a while. Sorry frank.