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glory hallelujah

Post by tenaciousdazz » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:56 pm

Hi Frank,
I wonder if you'd mind helping out a little with the education of our nation's youth (well, those in Stockton anyway). I'm teaching about the relevance of religion in modern society and 'Glory Hallelujah' immediately sprang to mind. So firstly, do you mind if I use it in the lesson? Secondly, can you explain briefly why you wrote it, and perhaps a few brief thoughts on the relevance of religion in modern society? I'm sure you've talked about the song in interviews so if you can direct me towards any online if that's easier than explaining it again. Of course, if anyone else wants to give their thoughts on the subject that'll be great too. Any help gratefully received!!
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by peteloaf » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:32 am

This is from a review of England Keep My Bones in the Guardian:

"Yet the most striking and contentious song is Glory Hallelujah, described by Turner as "atheist gospel", is a stirring sing-a-long based around a chorus of "There is no God! So clap your hands together!" and is best described as a musical version of London's 2009 atheist bus adverts. "I know this will get a lot of attention, but I want to make it clear it is not an anti-religious song," he says. "It is an anti-theist song. I'm a big Richard Dawkins fan, but I wanted to write a joyous song, not a spiteful fuck-you song that says if you are a religious person, you are an idiot. I have no desire to offend anyone: in fact, I'm not even sure I'll play it at the show tonight because it is in the crypt of Liverpool cathedral."

Three hours later, the cathedral's high-ceilinged basement is thankfully far more temperate than the Manchester sweat pit, but the crowd reaction is just as fervent and Turner flings himself into a gripping rendition of his catalogue. Later, he once more hangs out pressing the flesh of scores of his wide-eyed disciples, none of whom seem to mind that he has diplomatically omitted Glory Hallelujah from his set.

"I know that people think I'm on the verge of big things, but I really don't care," he says later. "I don't play music to try to sell X amount of records, or headline Madison Square Garden, or marry Jennifer Aniston. What matters to me is that lately I've realised I may be lucky enough to be able to do this for the rest of my life. That's what I want to be: a lifer on the road."

Full article here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/ju ... r-inteview.

What age kids are you teaching?

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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by frank » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:59 pm

hi there. as that guardian piece sort of skirts around, yes, well, i'm not trying to be count grishnak or anything. the idea for the song came along because i was on revival 2009 in the USA and we were finishing the set with "may the circle be unbroken", a gorgeous gospel song that's also a lot of fun to sing. but it crossed my mind that it'd be nice to have a song like that which wasn't religious, that in fact put my view of the situation across. but not as a normative statement, a manifesto or whatever, just sort of "this is where i am on this, and it makes me happy". i spent a really long time on the words, trying to make sure it came from the right angle. i'm still occasionally concerned that it might not be 100% what i wanted it to be. ah well. overall i think it says the things i wanted to say.
and yes, please do use the song, that'd be awesome. personally, well, there's room for religion on modern society, of course; more specifically i think there's room for the feelings that religion traditionally inspired, and sometimes i feel like rock'n'roll can fill a similar place in people's lives. hm.
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by h26 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:48 pm

... and is jennifer aniston very disappointed? :wink:
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by tenaciousdazz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:04 pm

Thanks for taking the time to reply in such detail Frank. What, in your opinion, are the feelings religion inspires?

And thanks for your contribution peteloaf. I teach secondary, and this is for a year 10 lesson.
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by frank » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:50 pm

i suppose it's the feeling of being taken out of yourself, of belonging to something greater than just an individual.
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by Shack » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:07 am

[quote="frank"] personally, well, there's room for religion on modern society, of course; more specifically i think there's room for the feelings that religion traditionally inspired, and sometimes i feel like rock'n'roll can fill a similar place in people's lives. hm.[/quote]

Quite a refreshing way to look at the subject to be honest Frank, also a slight nod to "I Still Believe" perhaps? haha

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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by h26 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:31 am

it's really about the view that man created god as opposed to god created man... then man did something more useful and created rock 'n' roll 8)
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by shambolic56 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:57 am

h26 wrote:it's really about the view that man created god as opposed to god created man... then man did something more useful and created rock 'n' roll 8)
I like this view, a lot :)

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Post by marowak » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:21 am

h26 wrote:it's really about the view that man created god as opposed to god created man..
i also like this
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by h26 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:00 pm

thanks! i obviously get quite philosophical after 'several' double vodkas :?
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by tenaciousdazz » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:48 pm

I shall report on how the lesson went next week. It also includes reference to several album covers (GNR, Sabbath, Nirvana), religious tattoos, and John Lennon.
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Re: glory hallelujah

Post by marowak » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:25 pm

http://www.godchecker.com

saw this earlier .... it may help?
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08 28.3 21.04 13.6 06.7 06.9
09 11.1 06.2 21.4 10.10 29.10
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11 12.2 12.5 30.5 27.11
12 13.4 28.11 28.12x2
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