Lyrics, Vocals or Music?

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Lyrics, Vocals or Music?

Post by Dubras3 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:25 am

What's the most important aspect of a song for you?

By lyrics, I mean what is being sung.
By vocals, I mean the quality of the singer's voice.
By music, I mean the actual instrumental/composition of the song.

I suppose you could also apply the question to your own songs Frank, ie. what do you focus most on while writing, recording and playing songs?

Question's open to everyone though, regarding what they enjoy most while listening to their favorite music.

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Post by Tension Head » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:52 am

I can't really enjoy one without the others being at least decent. In most cases I'd probably choose the music over the other things but the lyrics are still important.

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Post by tiffiny » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:22 pm

it's absolutely a combination for me. i guess i wide side toward things that are lyrically strong and musically weak if i had to pick, but the songs i love are all elements of both.
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Post by Bird » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:43 pm

Frank's lyrics were what hooked me. That said, had they emanated from the tuneless gob of a talentless bint, stretched over some vapid melody, I can't pretend that I would a) ever have heard them or b) have listened for long enough to appreciate their meaning.

So...crap. I suppose that I agree with Tension Head, although I would probably place more emphasis on the importance of the lyrics. Without them, I can't imagine myself listening to his albums over and over (ad would-be nauseam).

Vocals, in this case, don't at first seem important...until one realises that Frank's emotive singing is also highly magnetic. (That brings us back to the lyrics - they're his and they're heartfelt and that's what shines through...in most instances.) His voice is definitely improving, though - I don't think that he'd have nailed songs like English Curse, Nights Become Days or Wanderlust (my current addiction) quite as superbly a few years ago. (Sorry, Frank.)

I already don't agree with what I've said but would rather go and buy pies than sit here, scribbling in ever-decreasing circles. I'm sure that you would all prefer that, too!

Erm...FT: lyrics>sound MD: sound>lyrics (apart from some songs on each side)?!? Nope. I still don't agree with myself. Bye!

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Post by frank » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:47 pm

tiffiny wrote:it's absolutely a combination for me. i guess i wide side toward things that are lyrically strong and musically weak if i had to pick, but the songs i love are all elements of both.
this.
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Post by Blonde » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:09 pm

Am I the only one here who mostly goes for music over lyrics? Lyrics are pretty important too, but its usually the music that grabs me first and after a few listens I start to pay more attention to the lyrics.

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Post by tenaciousdazz » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:53 pm

I think it's music that grabs my attention first. Sometimes I don't think I listen to lyrics at all. There are songs I've played with the band a hundred times and I don't have the first fucking clue what the lyrics are.
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Post by Emitime » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:28 pm

I can only hope Converge aren't actually singing about how rad Hitler was, because I really like them, but I could hardly tell you a single lyric.
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Post by Bird » Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:23 am

frank wrote:
tiffiny wrote:it's absolutely a combination for me. i guess i wide side toward things that are lyrically strong and musically weak if i had to pick, but the songs i love are all elements of both.
this.
Whoops. I missed that. What they said. Apologies for the embarrassingly typical ramble.

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Post by newmy » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:19 am

Emitime wrote:I can only hope Converge aren't actually singing about how rad Hitler was, because I really like them, but I could hardly tell you a single lyric.
There's one about horses and one about hearts. That's about all I can tell you. Oh and one about locusts.

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Post by Joobs » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:31 pm

melody is the most important for me.. usually if i have a good melody the lyrics just come..

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Post by Luke123 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:29 am

I think if the music and vocals are nice, then I can later appreciate the lyrics. Having a terrible ear for lyrics, meaning it takes me absolutely ages to decipher what is being sung, I'd have literally no reason to listen to any music that was bad even if it's lyrics were incredible.

In summary, music and vocals catch my interest in a song, whereas lyrics sort of maintain it, because the lyrics take a piece of music from a bunch of nice notes and chords to a whole other realm.
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