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Re: Tattoos

Post by sarahg » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:47 pm

Poor love, I think that the silly sausage might have got ft muddled up with Russell Brand?
Must be a beard thing.
Also 3/10 is rather generous in my humble opinion.

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Re: Tattoos

Post by darlenet. » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:02 pm

sarahg wrote:Poor love, I think that the silly sausage might have got ft muddled up with Russell Brand?
Must be a beard thing.
Also 3/10 is rather generous in my humble opinion.
"Silly sausage." What a cute expression, but what an image that conjures up! I agree "3/10" is quite generous. When I read it, it reminded me of a poem I submitted to Sports Illustrated magazine when I was 11 years old. I took "The Night Before Christmas" poem and reworked line by line to include by favorite football team, The Miami Dolphins and their upcoming game. My, how clever I thought it was. But in retrospect.....(though it was coherent and logical, and I didn't abuse punctation).
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Re: Tattoos

Post by frank » Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:22 pm

In all seriousness, this kind of shit is a big part of why I actively tried to distance myself from politics in my music. The people involved in that scene are so fucking humourless, self-important, and just generally charmless, whilst also not really caring about music in and of itself. Case in point: this chump.
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Re: Tattoos

Post by FGA3 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:35 pm

frank wrote:In all seriousness, this kind of shit is a big part of why I actively tried to distance myself from politics in my music. The people involved in that scene are so fucking humourless, self-important, and just generally charmless, whilst also not really caring about music in and of itself. Case in point: this chump.
I saw you speak about this when you spoke at Oxford. I completely understand why, as the issues surrounding a political song often end up taking focus away from the music itself. But its such a shame... from what I've read and heard you have balanced and well researched political opinions, and obviously an amazing ability with lyrics.Music is such an effective way of relaying opinions and views (Billy Bragg). For those of us who studied and are interested in politics, it is a shame that because of dicks like the bloke who started this thread that everyone is deprived of a few good, juicy, controversial songs....

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Re: Tattoos

Post by reitzel6570 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:33 am

FGA3 wrote:For those of us who studied and are interested in politics, it is a shame that because of dicks like the bloke who started this thread that everyone is deprived of a few good, juicy, controversial songs....
Haven't studied and not too interested in politics either, but I do think it's a shame that Frank or any artist feels they need to avoid a subject just because there's assholes in the world.

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Re: Tattoos

Post by NickSouthampton » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:37 pm

I have great respect for Billy Bragg and love many of his "political" songs but I do feel the man has the patience of a saint considering the shit he has to put up with. Lots of people give him a very hard time because he is a socialist and has a big house, or because he voted LibDem in a solid Tory constituency where Labour don't have a snowball's chance. If I were him I would be tempted to say "screw you, I have done twenty times what you have to make a more equal society. What have you done?"

Frank writes amazing songs, songs that make people happy, make people think and a lot of songs that seem to be about one thing but have many layers. He is dong a great job and surely it is up to him what he chooses to write about.

I assume the original poster will soon be writing his own song to show us all how it should be done.
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Re: Tattoos

Post by marowak » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:16 pm

I was thinking about this earlier and I'm positive that most people who think like this are jealous of other people becoming successful.
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Re: Tattoos

Post by sarahg » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:53 pm

marowak wrote:I was thinking about this earlier and I'm positive that most people who think like this are jealous of other people becoming successful.
Agreed, I can think of no other logical explanation.
Clearly becoming a successful entertainer means your social conscience has been surgically removed.
So how come I have spotted ft doing gigs for charities like War Child?
Giving his support to charitable causes ranging from cancer, men's health, disabilities, keeping music venues open and campaigning for community facilities for young people.
Taking time out to listen to and answer fans questions.
Not to mention all the jobs created, crew, catering, record company staff, oh and the promotion of new acts........
Yes clearly the man couldn't give a damn about anything.

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Re: Tattoos

Post by goldust » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:51 pm

frank wrote:In all seriousness, this kind of shit is a big part of why I actively tried to distance myself from politics in my music.
I've heard you say this a few times which is why I was quite surprised when I first heard "Something of Freedom" as it is perhaps the most overtly political song you have done since "Sons of Liberty". I guess that is why it was left off TDH? It wouldn't have really fit in with the rest of the album. Good song though. I like hearing this kind of song from you even though my political leanings are pretty different to yours, but I can understand why you don't want to be labelled as that kind of artist.

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Re: Tattoos

Post by frank » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:58 pm

goldust wrote:
frank wrote:In all seriousness, this kind of shit is a big part of why I actively tried to distance myself from politics in my music.
I've heard you say this a few times which is why I was quite surprised when I first heard "Something of Freedom" as it is perhaps the most overtly political song you have done since "Sons of Liberty". I guess that is why it was left off TDH? It wouldn't have really fit in with the rest of the album. Good song though. I like hearing this kind of song from you even though my political leanings are pretty different to yours, but I can understand why you don't want to be labelled as that kind of artist.
Actually that song is yet older, Evan (who is on here and who writes the sleeve notes) has been bugging me to release it for ages. I'm still pretty ambivalent about the song to be honest.
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Re: Tattoos

Post by Evan » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:18 pm

frank wrote:
goldust wrote:
frank wrote:In all seriousness, this kind of shit is a big part of why I actively tried to distance myself from politics in my music.
I've heard you say this a few times which is why I was quite surprised when I first heard "Something of Freedom" as it is perhaps the most overtly political song you have done since "Sons of Liberty". I guess that is why it was left off TDH? It wouldn't have really fit in with the rest of the album. Good song though. I like hearing this kind of song from you even though my political leanings are pretty different to yours, but I can understand why you don't want to be labelled as that kind of artist.
Actually that song is yet older, Evan (who is on here and who writes the sleeve notes) has been bugging me to release it for ages. I'm still pretty ambivalent about the song to be honest.

This is true. I have been a big fan of that song for a long time. Despite the fact I do not have any political leanings, I can entirely get behind the sentiment of it.

Plus it's very catchy.
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Re: Tattoos

Post by skhmmxi » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:06 pm

Evan wrote:Plus it's very catchy.
It reminds me a lot of "The Times They Are a-Changin'". I presume that's deliberate, but that's why it sticks in my head. In a good way.
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Re: Tattoos

Post by Watergirl » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:16 pm

skhmmxi wrote: It reminds me a lot of "The Times They Are a-Changin'". I presume that's deliberate, but that's why it sticks in my head. In a good way.
Totally. I really like the song but my first thought after checking the credits was, "I wonder if Bob could sue".
Not sure how these things work. Billy Bragg's "Ideology" has the exact same melody as "Chimes of freedom", but is credited to Billy.
Yet Oasis were successfully sued by the New Seekers and they only borrowed one line. Anyway, don't want to stir up trouble….
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Re: Tattoos

Post by Shiney » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:04 pm

Has the OP got nothing else to say? Piss poor trolling. 1/10 for effort - must try harder.
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Re: Tattoos

Post by marowak » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:50 am

Shiney wrote:Piss poor trolling.
yeah it very much seems like trolling ...
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