Frank Turner: Sellout

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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by TheOneWorthLeaving » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:37 pm

I think people take the term 'sell out' too literally, as in 'someone who sells out venues'. Frank would be a sell out if this was what the term meant. But I think it really means something more like 'cashing in, at the expense of your values and responsibilities, with superficial motives', and I don't think he fits this description at all.

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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by Sami » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:11 pm

"My favorite answer all time to "Did you sell out?" was given by Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich. When asked if Metallica sold out, he said, "Yes, we sell out every seat in the house, every night.""
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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by marowak » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:19 am

There's a great line in 'live fast - die old' (i think) where it goes something like 'we will never sell out cause we never bought in' ...

as I said once before - I never ever remember reading any article or interview in which Frank says he dosen't want to be popular and successful ... the whole point of being a musician is to play to as many people as possible and sell as many albums as you can.
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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by helentx » Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:12 pm

For choice, if I could, I'd turn back time to sometime in 2009 so I could go to the headline sell out show in Shepherd's Bush, at that time a new level in his career. :) To me listening to Take to the Road, that formidable performance is at the root of what he does & it foreshadowed what came next. & what's not to like about someone whose roots are so entwined with other musicians that he suddenly scoots out on stage to sing Linoleum with Fat Mike! I think that's what the naysayers & detractors don't get. Essentially I think he's gathering far more attention now than he loses & it will go on growing.

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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by Iwillnotgrowup » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:27 pm

I assume the term sellout is meaning Frank becoming successful, Frank being played on the radio, Frank playing Wembley Arena, Frank supporting Green Day, Frank selling out gigs in 10 minutes, Frank not being our little secret anymore.

If so who have we got to blame?? Ourselves!! We're the ones spreading the word, buying the albums, the merchandise and going to all of the gigs.

Frank Turner ain't a sellout, he's just becoming more successful and popular and to be honest I can't think of any other artist who deserves it more!!

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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by Dougie » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:09 am

Still can't enjoy the Mr Brightside cover :(

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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by LoveStreet » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:28 am

Dougie wrote:Still can't enjoy the Mr Brightside cover :(
I believe he said that was his first time playing it. Thought it was pretty good for probably learning the lyrics not too long before.
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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by Tomasz » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:37 am

LoveStreet wrote:
Dougie wrote:Still can't enjoy the Mr Brightside cover :(
I believe he said that was his first time playing it. Thought it was pretty good for probably learning the lyrics not too long before.
It won a poll so he "had" to play it, don't think he's played it again since.
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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by Gleena » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:06 am

Frank's right, it is the lack of joined up thinking.


Then they tell everybody, things happen and Frank does Wembley and those same morons are all "OMG FRANK U SELOUT" (Because did you notice, most of them can't spell?)

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Re: Frank Turner: Sellout

Post by fadedskyjeff » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:00 pm

It's just a larger audience base.

I'm from Utah, in the United States. The last time that he played here was in 2009. Frank is, by far and away, my favorite musician, and over the last few years I make 12 hour road trips to Los Angeles just to see him play. One of the last times through, I met him and he promised me that he would come to Utah on the next go through, and sure as shit, he is coming through Salt Lake City this time around. To celebrate, I have a group of seven going from Denver to San Diego this time around for five shows.

It's not that he is selling out, it is more that he is making more friends. In the times that I have met him, THAT is what it seems like to me. Every time out he makes more and MORE friends, and all he wants to do is see them all.

Now, I know the "road trip" in inherently an American thing, but believe me...If I could do the whole tour over in the UK, I would. (Maybe then I could see Jim Lockey and TSS play too)
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