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Guardian Article

Post by Tomasz » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:19 pm

Please don't read the comments underneath. Honestly. There's nothing to be gained there. I wanted to rip my own eyes out to make it stop.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/ap ... th-threats
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Re: Guardian Article

Post by smithyramfan » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:59 pm

Tomasz wrote:Please don't read the comments underneath. Honestly. There's nothing to be gained there. I wanted to rip my own eyes out to make it stop.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/ap ... th-threats
The article itself is actually pretty decent though. Like you said though with the comments
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Re: Guardian Article

Post by darlenet. » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:09 pm

While I would never be so presumptuous to comment on the politics, I can say that these "journalists" still manage to get in their digs and barbs. I found it a bit passive/aggressive. Frank has stated his position eloquently. He has not waivered. Asked and answered, time to move on.

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Re: Guardian Article

Post by marowak » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:44 pm

I dont evny Frank or other musicians at all when people constantly ask the same boring questions over and over again.
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Re: Guardian Article

Post by davefeeder » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:46 pm

marowak wrote:I dont evny Frank or other musicians at all when people constantly ask the same boring questions over and over again.
Speaking of which, I did a very short email interview with Frank, panicked and sent a load of utterly inane questions. Didn't even ask about the album. Great work there from me.
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Re: Guardian Article

Post by frank » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:49 pm

hello. not reading the comments on this, i have better things to do. for the record, the guardian got in touch and said they wanted to make peace. at first i was pretty fucked off about it, but decided on balance that it was a good idea. they let me pick the journo - mark writes for NME and is pretty sound. i like the article. it clears a fair few things up, and let me state my case.

at this exact moment in time i'm actually not that bothered about all this shit. i feel like i've said what i think, and i'm standing by it. some people fucking hate me, and i don't care much about that any more, fuck em. it's pretty funny actually - lots of people who spend their life wearing t-shirts (or whatever) saying you should stand up for what you believe in, stand your ground or whatever, who consider themselves anti-establishment, rebellious.... this is what it looks like, actually, fuckers.

end rant / boast. it's been a long fucking road to get to some kind of peace on the subject so forgive me a touch of defiance.
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Re: Guardian Article

Post by stuhmfc » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:53 pm

wonderfully said!

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Re: Guardian Article

Post by mintfresh » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:36 pm

For what it matters, I don't care about your politics Frank. Thanks for making Tape Deck Heart, it is currently cheering up my life no end! Also, cool to hear about what you get up to on your days off, I'd much rather hear about that than anything else, feel free to share that more!

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Re: Guardian Article

Post by brummiegirl » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:44 pm

I read that article and then some of the comments. Hell's teeth, don't some people (a) talk utter bilge and (b) think they are above everyone else. I have to say that I felt extremely protective of Frank and wanted to do some damage to someone, then I contented myself with thinking knobheads, they're just knobheads, and I felt better! You can't please all the people all the time but last night in Birmingham Frank must have come pretty close.

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Re: Guardian Article

Post by skhmmxi » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:45 am

Meh. Journalists want to put a stake in the ground to define who you are at a given moment, and from then on they criticise you for even the slightest deviation from what you said at that point in time.

I have much more respect for anyone who learns and adapts their ideas than someone who hears something, affixes themselves to it and commits to it for life (and to be absolutely fair, people like that are quite possibly the dullest people on the planet, and they only seem to find solace in cutting down anyone else who doesn't agree with them).

Changing your opinions and ideas from one minute to the next as you learn new information might be viewed by the narrow-minded as hypocritical, but I prefer to view it as evolutionary. If you die with precisely the same ideas you grew up with, what was the point of life in between the two?
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Re: Guardian Article

Post by helentx » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:45 am

I posted this on CIF this morning because ... why not?

I think the fabulously fit Frank Turner & The Sleeping Souls did what they do best last night at their (sold out in minutes) London show at The Forum. Exploding on to the stage their high energy packed set was an exciting experience shared worldwide on youtube. Frank's a genuine guy who makes a lot of people happy.

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Re: Guardian Article

Post by Opinionated Brit » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:24 am

Great article, really put across a great message.

I made the mistake of delving into the comments section yesterday before I was given any warning.

It's not all bad, there are a few people who feel as if they understand you better thanks to a personal article and respect you more for that.

Then there are the others who have picked out every little thing, misinterpreted it out of context (as usual) and built their arguments around it. It's good to see that in many cases they have been called out for it though.

I agree totally with what you said regarding the T Shirts, It's all good until they disagree with you. All over the internet it seems that saying you're even vaguely right wing is a critical sin (I've seen it everywhere) and those who disagree are always those who shout loudest. The internet warriors are all over their beliefs about treating everyone equally and what not yet they fail to recognize their own actions.

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Re: Guardian Article

Post by moomin » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:02 pm

interesting interview, did read a couple of the comments, lost me on the first left, never been any good with directions

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Re: Guardian Article

Post by smithyramfan » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:44 pm

The Guardian seem to be back to their old tricks...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/ju ... new-tracks

Just noticed this posted a week ago. A quite terrible review of The Way I Tend To Be which is almost just about his "idiotic" politics. Clearly the writer is not a Frank fan after looking at the comments
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Re: Guardian Article

Post by LoveStreet » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:40 am

Disgusting. Barely even said anything about the song, just obsessed with spreading negativity.
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