The Frank Turner bird

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The Frank Turner bird

Post by long_live_the_queen » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:08 pm

Does anybody know what it symbolizes? More specifically, why it appears to be dead (the x's for eyes)?

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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by As Good As It Gets » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:57 am

The swallow tattoo was generally used by sailors to represent travel. Not sure about Frank's interpretation with they eyes, maybe it's sleeping or straight edge. :wink:
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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by Evan » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:08 pm

I would imagine that Xs are easier to cut into wood than circles.

The swallow means a lot more than just travel. Worth a google.
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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by Bella » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:08 am

By the Frank Tuner Bird, I guess you mean the ones on the artwork of Frank’s album – Poetry of the Deed? They are swallows.

Don’t know what you mean about X for eyes – the X is the back of the birds head viewed from above rather then profile view in which eyes would be visible. I’ve seen a number of different birds in flight drawn this way, most often in woodcuts - it’s an artistic style.

You could always email the artist Chris Bourke if you really want to be 100% sure. I think his email is on his website.

Swallows as symbols… oohhhh so many meanings - the internet is your friend. :wink: you could start here :

http://ezinearticles.com/?Swallow-Tatto ... id=5725269


In relation to Frank though – have to ask to be sure, but easy to guess once you look up common meanings for swallows and cross reference with stuff we know about FT. Here’s two..

Frank tours relentlessly - swallows represent returning home safely from long journeys.

Frank also enjoys myths and is also a huge TS Elliot fan - In "The Waste Land", T. S. Eliot quoted the line "Quando fiam uti chelidon [ut tacere desinam]?" ("When will I be like the swallow, so that I can stop being silent?") This refers to a version of the myth of Philomela in which she turns into a Nightingale and her sister Procne into a Swallow. (Frank has a tattoo on his wrist that references another myth, regarding the Oracle Sybil references by TS Elliot in the preface to The Waste Land although it’s originally from The Satyricon)

All of the above might have nothing to do with it at all - it could just be a nice bit of art…. :D



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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by newmy » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:19 am

I think we all know the most important question here is whether it depicts an African or European Swallow.

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Post by Bella » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:46 pm

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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by Shiney » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:56 pm

You should check out Chris's other work. The guy is awesome. http://Www.chrisbourkeart.com
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The Frank Turner bird

Post by Emsabobs » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:15 pm

Shiney wrote:You should check out Chris's other work. The guy is awesome. http://Www.chrisbourkeart.com
Interestingly enough it would seem there are some more of the 'poetry of the deed' linos in stock. If these are what I remember they were on sale in a gallery a couple of years back and sold out. There must have been a few left. I've just purchased one.
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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by CBA » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:07 pm

hello! just wanted to post news of my newest project - 50 Hearts
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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by Venomous_Bear » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:07 am

Hahahahaha Bella I know this was months ago, but the second I saw this turned into a discussion of Swallows... The BEST part of Holy Grail (which is saying a lot)! Hahaha
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Re: The Frank Turner bird

Post by rachyl5656tip019 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:36 am

I would like birds because i love birds and its symbolize freedom
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