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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by selfishbi_atch101 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:00 pm

Pete wrote:Re the UK and Syria, I think this article is absolutely spot on. Monumentally depressed by UK politics at the minute. Every time I think it's sunk to a new low, it out-does itself.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danho ... -children/
Thanks for posting. Sometimes I select the telegraph to read but missed this one.
I think this article does raise some keen points about the disorder of power in current government (small 'g'). However, it could be of vital import that there is oppositional response (to what haphazard governing structure we still have), to create dialogue/thinking for future decisions (in the public mind). Cameron's weaknesses must be tested?

As a side note, I'm baffled by the suggestion: "Britain is now an isolationist nation". Whaaa?
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by selfishbi_atch101 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:11 pm

Pete wrote:Your news is wrong or you misread.
Sorry, Pete, not to pick on quotationing your posts (!), but this one is great, because, I would proffer that all news can be read as wrong, which makes it such a fascinating exploit of the Politica.

Although, there was (once) 'News in Briefs'.... but that's gone now... !

In the news, I thought feminist response to 'Blurred Lines' was interesting and wondered what others thought about the original and the parody?

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 95998.html
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Gleena » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:33 am

Except I wasn't wrong in my understanding of what the newspaper said. Possibly the newspaper got it wrong.

We are 3 days out from an election, and the Liberals have not provided costings for three major policies. Really? You are so confident you'll win government you don't think you have to tell us how much your poorly thought out policies will cost? Really?

Donkey vote, I swear.

Here, if you're interested: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 2t6dm.html
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Gleena » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:09 am

I'll just talk to myself for a bit.

We're getting a new PM. Tony Abbott, the mad monk, looks set to topple Kevin Rudd as PM, who himself knifed Julia Gillard just a short time ago.

Here: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 2taew.html

Rudd may lose his own seat as well.

Doesn't matter. Well it DOES, but not really. Abbot is the worst of a bad lot but it's still a bad lot.

I voted below the line, so (remember, preference voting) I numbered my preferences for all 110 choices for the lower house. Go me.

We're in such a good position economically, the fact that the Australian people can't get their act together is really fucking depressing. I think the next person that says 'stop the boats' should be set out to sea on a leaky one. Here's a hit, fuckwits, most of our illegal immigrants come by AIRPLANE and they are BRITISH. And it's not illegal to seek asylum. Could we concentrate and do things that work instead of worrying about a tiny number of people who come here on boats? Even if they are brown? I know this country was founded on racism (see: White Australia Policy) but that was years ago (well, 1967, no really, that's when) so could we stop being such racist, racist fuckwits please and talk about real issues like Syria and coal seam gas and global warming and sustainable transport?

Oh here, this is what a stand up guy Abbott is, if you're into homophobes who helped hide paedophile priests when he was in training to be one: http://www.independentaustralia.net/201 ... who-is-he/

Asshole. Rudd's just as bad. Fuck me, Australia. You suck.

I'm going to go get drunk now. Wish me luck.
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Venomous_Bear » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:28 pm

Was just reading that article you posted about Ms. Gillard and her classiness throughout the events of the past few months. Now everyone wants her and they can't have her. Madness.

http://smh.com.au/comment/gillard-goes- ... 2t810.html

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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Gleena » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:14 pm

Venomous_Bear wrote:Was just reading that article you posted about Ms. Gillard and her classiness throughout the events of the past few months. Now everyone wants her and they can't have her. Madness.

http://smh.com.au/comment/gillard-goes- ... 2t810.html

What is happening to the colonies, m'lady? My heart aches.
We're not colonies. We're overdone penal institutions.
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Pete » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:20 am

Gleena wrote: talk about real issues like... global warming
Lolz

Also - Gillard is as bad as the other two. They're all awful, but what do you expect, they're politicians. Nowadays it's a job that only the most awful humans in society would take on in the most part. Unfortunately that's probably the media's fault, but then what do you do, censure the media and stop them pillorying politicians? Western politicians and their collective failures are a direct consequence of free media.
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Gleena » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:50 am

Pete wrote:
Gleena wrote: talk about real issues like... global warming
Lolz

Also - Gillard is as bad as the other two. They're all awful, but what do you expect, they're politicians. Nowadays it's a job that only the most awful humans in society would take on in the most part. Unfortunately that's probably the media's fault, but then what do you do, censure the media and stop them pillorying politicians? Western politicians and their collective failures are a direct consequence of free media.
Gillard in office was as bad as the other two, although I admired her ability to stand up to the old boys. Gillard in exile (retirement?) has been nothing but grace and class, I have to say.

Speaking of the media, Murdoch's Telegraph has been excretory. We had on the first day, "Finally, you get the chance to vote this mob out" with Abbott's smarmy face. Then later, you had them dressing up Labor pollies in Nazi gear to make Hogan's Heroes jokes.

Well, we're in it anyway. Now we get more about how Syria is baddies vs baddies so we shouldn't get involved because of that. Awesome.

The fun news is that there are a myriad of minor parties holding the balance of power, since so many people voted for just whoever the hell wasn't a major party. So we get things like the Sporting party and the Motor Appreciate Party in the Senate. IN THE SENATE. Gah!
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by helentx » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:58 am

someone I follow retweeted this today - Journalists not politicians are the real masters of spin - learnt a bit on interpreting headlines & thought it was QI (quite interesting)
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/the-d ... -spin.html

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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Venomous_Bear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:37 pm

Pete wrote:
Also - Gillard is as bad as the other two. They're all awful, but what do you expect, they're politicians. Nowadays it's a job that only the most awful humans in society would take on in the most part. Unfortunately that's probably the media's fault, but then what do you do, censure the media and stop them pillorying politicians? Western politicians and their collective failures are a direct consequence of free media.
I agree, 100%. I'm just devastated that it's A vs B, and there is no fiscally conservative option in either. Do you want big government with limited rights and bigotry, or big government with sunshine, rainbows and unmanned droids shooting randoms around the world (not even bringing up Canada, because no one cares hahaha). In Australia, sounds like you could get a mishmash of things, leading to no progress.... Excuse me whilst I head to the Netherlands. Or Johnny Depp's island. Oooh, or Wallis and Futuna, even though they have some sort of monarchy. Gleena, we could be neighbours before I die of typhoid!
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Venomous_Bear » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:48 pm

helentx wrote:someone I follow retweeted this today - Journalists not politicians are the real masters of spin - learnt a bit on interpreting headlines & thought it was QI (quite interesting)
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/the-d ... -spin.html
We have the same issues re: headlines and spin...we know which newspaper to read to get the story we want. It's nuts.

Also, the second you have these "newsdrama" tv shows declaring a "no-spin zone"...goddamn Fox's "fair and balanced" coverage and CNN/MSNBC are just as bad on the other side. Assuming the same in the UK/Aus. Jon Stewart had an awesome piece about this the other night (cannot link as no Youtube/Hulu on-site, only from room, and I don't want them to know who is using the proxy login ;D).

Best news network by FAR = R.T. Go figure.
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Re: Politics / Current Affairs / Blog thread

Post by Gleena » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:54 pm

Bogans will reap what they sow. Abbott has already begun, our National Broadband Network site is already down. Bastard.

So, Syria. Looks like the US might back down, but I think Russia is stalling for time. I still think this will shape up as a proxy war in the end.

Meanwhile, people keep dying from conventional weapons. Where's the outrage?
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